Aftermath of today's NJ Cars and Coffee

"KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time" (kngt) 05/07/2018 at 00:09 • Filed to: Car Crashes, Cars and Coffee, Camaro, Zl1

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RIP ZL1 1LE. Idiot pulled off a solid C&C Mustang.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 05/07/2018 at 00:19

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I hold out hope that maybe just maybe stuff like this will end the horse power wars.

Noah - Now with more boost. > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 05/07/2018 at 00:26

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Must be a ZL1 driver thing. At a very rainy PCA track day last year some guy - who was perfectly alright, props to GM - totaled his because he decided his shit had gotten so hot over the past several laps that he didn’t have to brake where all the GT3 and Turbo drivers were braking anymore on the front straight. Then he hit the wall at a high enough speed that they had to go get the forklift to move the jersey barriers he destroyed/knocked over. Scary stuff.

NKato > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/07/2018 at 00:29

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I am happy about one thing with these “horsepower” wars. It means a new engine for my Killer Queen will be getting cheaper as time goes on. Someday, someday I will have a 450HP Gen3 Coyote in my Crown Victoria.

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/07/2018 at 00:34

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Nah. There are more and more of these fools with more money than sense and talent, who want more Horsepower for bragging rights who’ll gladly pay through their nose for it.

Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 05/07/2018 at 00:34

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I bet he turned his traction control off.

Textured Soy Protein > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 05/07/2018 at 00:35

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Sometimes I think, “hey maybe I’ll go to a Cars & Coffee sometime.”

But why does everybody have to rev their shit on the way out?

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Blunion05 drives a pink S2000 (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) 05/07/2018 at 00:37

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That and being a 1LE , basically racing slicks on a chilly day = enjoy your insurance bills moron

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Textured Soy Protein 05/07/2018 at 00:38

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How else will you gain street cred and let evryone know how cool you are, Bruh?

KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time > Noah - Now with more boost. 05/07/2018 at 00:46

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That thing is such a beastly track weapon and I really love what it represents-GM’s screw you to Supercars. Looks so good as well but I’m seeing far too many douches seem to buy it.

Textured Soy Protein > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 05/07/2018 at 00:47

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They’ll be like, “whoa that guy with the blue BMW is so chill, he’s not even pretending like he’s going to peel out of here.”

DipodomysDeserti > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 05/07/2018 at 00:50

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Thirty morons standing on the highway recording video and no one manages to catch the Camaro impaling itself on the guardrail?

Noah - Now with more boost. > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 05/07/2018 at 00:54

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Yeah it’s totally an “I ONLY BUY AMERICAN” car for business dads who need to drive the top model of whatever status symbol they’re commuting to work in that year. I’d be mad but you know damn well that those same guys are middle aged office workers with bad backs who would be so much happier in a standard V8. That brings me joy.

Svend > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 05/07/2018 at 02:23

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I already posted on the Facebook page.

Me=red

Flynorcal: pilot, offshore sailor, car racer and panty thief > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 05/07/2018 at 02:27

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I can attest to the track killing power from chasing one in a Z06 and hitting 150mph on the straight but unable to find a way to get past them.

ZL1 1LE is a mean motherfucker.

duurtlang > Svend 05/07/2018 at 03:04

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If you censor names you might want to scroll all the way down to the bottom of the image ;)

SilentButNotReallyDeadly...killed by G/O Media > DipodomysDeserti 05/07/2018 at 03:31

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If a Camaro bins it on a highway...does anyone hear it?

Dusty Ventures > Svend 05/07/2018 at 04:02

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8/10 for trolling, 2/10 for your redaction skills

CRider > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/07/2018 at 04:06

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You want this to end? Are you sure you’re on the right website? This is Oppo. We like horsepower here.

LongbowMkII > CRider 05/07/2018 at 05:59

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Do we?

Captain of the Enterprise > Textured Soy Protein 05/07/2018 at 06:17

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I’d just blend in with my Camry going slow out of the carpark.

jimz > Textured Soy Protein 05/07/2018 at 06:20

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because most of them are 20-something douches who need to peacock every chance they get?

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > CRider 05/07/2018 at 07:06

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Nope. I’ve never owned a car with more than 250hp and probably never will. Horsepower is boring, and or dangerous. Power numbers are for bragging and nothing else. Except for maybe in actual competition, something 99% of us will never do.

I’d much rather have fun pushing my limits in a car i that can handle. I also prefer lighter cars that don’t need a ton of power, but my 328xi is 3500lb with only 230oh and it’s plenty for me. Especially now that it’s “broken” so it’s RWD at the moment.

The point is I’m a major believer in the montra or “driving a slow car fast is more fun than driving a fast car slow” it’s also more fun than driving a slow car into a tree/ditch/curb/on coming car et cetera.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Textured Soy Protein 05/07/2018 at 07:13

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When will they learn that hooning is for back roads with no one around. You want to make sure there’s no one around with a camera. This is the exact opposite.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Noah - Now with more boost. 05/07/2018 at 07:14

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But my tires a are a foot wide so I can turn at any speed I want!

Thomas Donohue > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 05/07/2018 at 08:08

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Bummed that I missed it (the C&C)........not sure I’ve ever seen an MC12

Tripper > KingT- 60% of the time, it works every time 05/07/2018 at 08:59

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FS Lipslide

haveacarortwoorthree2 > LongbowMkII 05/07/2018 at 11:07

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I do. :)

Svend > duurtlang 05/07/2018 at 11:14

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Doh, it didn’t show that bit on the screen when I edited it on the ‘Snipping Tool’.

It’s not like they can’t find it if they wanted to.

Svend > Dusty Ventures 05/07/2018 at 11:15

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I wasn’t trolling really, just more an observation and request for confirmation.

As I said to Duurlang.

Doh, it didn’t show that bit on the screen when I edited it on the ‘Snipping Tool’.

It’s not like they can’t find it if they wanted to.

Zed28M6 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/07/2018 at 16:31

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!!! UNKNOWN CONTENT TYPE !!!

The only people that say this are the ones who haven’t had the opportunity to own a fast car.

Except for maybe in actual competition, something 99% of us will never do.

I’d much rather have fun pushing my limits in a car i that can handle.

Are you implying that you push the limits on public roads? Because that shit is stupid no matter what you are driving.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Zed28M6 05/07/2018 at 18:07

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You don’t have to be in a competition to be off of public roads.

CRider > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/07/2018 at 19:09

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Horsepower is boring? You’ve clearly never driven a powerful car before. Horsepower is the opposite of boring and it’s the only kind of performance you can actually use on the street every day, for acceleration, merging onto highways and passing. You can’t go whipping around corners at 1g on the street, you’d have to be insane to think that’s OK.

Driving a slow car fast is great, but if you can handle it, so is driving a fast car fast. This is what track days are for. Saying that automakers should stop making fast cars is ridiculous. How many people can really handle a Miata at its limits? Should Mazda stop making those? Should Ferrari stop making cars, or is it OK because money = good driver? Just because you don’t need a powerful car to have fun doesn’t mean powerful cars aren’t fun.  

CRider > LongbowMkII 05/07/2018 at 19:12

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I think most Oppos can appreciate powerful cars. That doesn’t mean you can’t also enjoy the beater you bought on Ebay sight unseen for $800.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > CRider 05/07/2018 at 19:47

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“How many people can really handle a Miata at its limit”

So if people can’t handle a Miata then they reeeeeaallly don’t need a 500hp Camaro

CRider > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/07/2018 at 19:51

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So how rich should you have to be before you can buy a car you can’t handle?

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > CRider 05/07/2018 at 19:57

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When did wealth get involved?

CRider > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/07/2018 at 20:00

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Well you don’t seem to mind people buying and wrecking exotic cars, just powerful Camaros. It’s not like the ZL1 is an uncontrollable car, it’s just fast. So the problem seems to be that anyone can buy one.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > CRider 05/07/2018 at 20:09

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My pint is companies could be spending their time and money making better cars not just one with higher HP numbers .

CRider > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/07/2018 at 20:18

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This is a pushrod V8 making over 650 horsepower in a car with a factory warranty that gets 20 MPG. It’s an engineering feat that would have been thought impossible 20 years ago. It’s faster than a 911 Turbo S and a Nissan GT-R Track edition around VIR.

This is what happens when you make a better car, it gets more efficient. More efficient also means more powerful.

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > CRider 05/07/2018 at 20:43

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A.) it’s unnecessarily. You said hp is the only thing you can use on the road. I fail to see how anyone can leagally and safely use that kind of power on the road, ever.

B.) you can have lots of fun in a car with half, or hell one quarter of 650hp.

Is more power more fun? maybe?

I have driven faster cars and I wouldn’t want to daily drive one because you never get a chance to go full throttle on the road, or even close. If you ever do go hammer down you have to rely on the traction control to basically stop you from using the power anyway.

There are thousands of variables that factor into what makes a car fun, and for me raw power id low on my list of priorities.

Zed28M6 > HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles 05/08/2018 at 09:08

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Nobody can turn at 1g legally and safely on the road either. Shit, I’d argue that you shouldn’t be turning anything over .4g on the streets. If you are, your being erratic as shit which = dangerous.

It doesn’t take 300, 400, 500hp to be an idiot driver and get overwhelmed. Plenty of people in 215hp SN95 Mustangs have made complete asses out of themselves.

Sounds like you just want automakers to spend money developing the most beige Camry every, and a minivan that will make soccer moms cry tears of joy (just disguised as a CUV, because cool mom).

HFV has no HFV. But somehow has 2 motorcycles > Zed28M6 05/08/2018 at 13:37

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Yes some one can make a mistake in a slower car. But they’ll probably be moving at a lower speed when they do it. Anything car over, I would say, 500 has no place in public roads. And should be for track use only.